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Source

Hey!

I did add a source to the article on Swedish actress Barbro Larsson!

https://www.dn.se/familj/dodsannonser/#/CaseInline/945126?query=barbro%20lARSSON 92.39.0.212 (talk) 07:02, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I click on your source above and didnt see what you added on the article. Cassiopeia talk 07:06, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I added Larssons full name, which was not in the article before.92.39.0.212 (talk) 10:40, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I understand, but the URL you indicated has no article about the info (full name of the subject). Cassiopeia talk 02:12, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Roster Watch

To play devil's advocate (look that up), why do you allow X as sources for Roster Tracker / UFC Roster Watch removals?

The obvious answer is there are exceptions and "sparingly" right? You said you do not allow X/social media posts, right?

I know exceptions are made sparingly, but let's hear your explanation Marty2Hotty (talk) 12:14, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Marty2Hotty It is well recognized that, often, when a fighter is released from the UFC, most media media do not report on the event. As a result, we remove fighters from the list of current UFC competitors if they have not participated in a UFC event within the past two years. Additionally, fighters are removed if their fight record on Sherdog indicates participation in another promotion. We utilize the UFC watch to maintain the updated list. We always substitute UFC watch when we find an independent, reliable source reporting the event. Should you wish, you may choose to eliminate or revert all UFC Watch sources from the articles, thereby retaining all fighters who have departed from the UFC on the list of current UFC fighters, and in their respective articles that they are still considered UFC fighters. Cassiopeia talk 16:05, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That is right, but it conflicts what you previously said about not using social media, right? :) You said you cannot use social media for a source, but here you can? Why? You didn't explain why it is okay here.
So, your answer is the media does not always report it, right? This is the case for certain situations as well. Also, the answer is the roster watch is "reliable", is it not? Please answer. Marty2Hotty (talk) 21:22, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Basically, it can be used in sparing cases when the source is very reliable like UFC Roster Watch on X (social media), right?
You were always against "all" social media as being unreliable including the ones from OFFICIAL accounts. But this is okay? Come on! Marty2Hotty (talk) 21:23, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Marty2Hotty As I said, should you wish, you may choose to eliminate or revert all UFC Watch sources from the articles, thereby retaining all fighters who have departed from the UFC on the list of current UFC fighters, and in their respective articles that they are still considered UFC fighters. I have substitute all the January 25 releases sources on 2025 in UFC and list of UFC current fighters pages. Cassiopeia talk 01:59, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That doesn't answer the question. I do not wish to remove any Roster Tracker post because it IS reliable. Most people including the media agree that the Roster Watch X verified source is reliable. Do you agree?
For example, if there is a facebook or X post from UFC (verified) account, it is reliable. Even Marcel Dorff's X posts are reliable because most media cite his X posts as factual.
My point is: some social media can be reliable. Can you agree with this? Even the guidelines on Wikipedia says some social media sources can be used if the post itself is from the person and verified, etc. Marty2Hotty (talk) 11:22, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Basically, social media posts can be used sparingly. We must practice judgment. Roster Watch has been accepted in MMA media as a reliable source.
For bouts, I can agree with you that eventually, they will be reported, but there might be exceptions depending on the circumstances, so it can be used sparingly.
This refutes your original post of "all social media is unreliable", because that is not true, and as per Wikipedia guidelines, this is the case.
Your lack of English ability makes these conversations extremely difficult for me, and for anyone who interacts with you on the page, because you fail to address points logically. Marty2Hotty (talk) 11:33, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I asked you about UFC awards before and I said it is not often reported by the media, so a verified UFC social media account is reliable and can be used sparingly.
When I asked you about UFC Roster Watch on X (verified gold), you said media does not report all roster removals, so we can use this X post as a reliable source. So, this is against your "all social media posts are unreliable".
There is a reason why X, Facebook, YouTube links are not banned on Wikipedia because they can be used, but we need to practice judgment of course. Sparingly is the case. It is better for things to be reported on mmajunkie, mmafighting, etc, but occasionally, we might be able to accept social media posts.
There are talk pages for reasons because some guidelines can be a little subjective. You should know that. Marty2Hotty (talk) 21:09, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I utilize an application to verify my written communication. If there is a lack of understanding, it becomes challenging to engage in dialogue, particularly as there appears to be a reluctance to read messages, especially those containing guidelines or information that diverges from your own perspective. Consequently, we do not consider social media as a reliable source; this applies universally. I have replaced the sources from x.com in the List of current UFC fighters and the 2025 UFC. I have no further comments. Cassiopeia talk 02:16, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Roster Watch X is a reliable source and is accepted by MMA media as a valid source for roster removals, which is why you followed it. Marty2Hotty (talk) 07:07, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
In 2024/2023/2022 in UFC, Roster Watch is used as a source. All MMA Media relies on Roster Watch X for roster removals and many do not report it.
In your own words: "We utilize the UFC watch [on X] to maintain the updated list.". This conflicts with your "we do not consider social media as a reliable source" statement. So you cannot come to any conclusion.
Social media as a whole might not be reliable if the account is not reliable, like a random person. But in sparing situations like Roster Watch and others, it can be used. Thank you. You answered your own question. I just wanted to call you out on it because it appears hypocritical. So, please keep that in mind when coaching other editors and pay attention to where the source is coming from. Roster Watch X is one of many exceptions. "Joe1234" on X is not reliable. "mma_kings" (Nolan King) might be reliable but we can wait for updates to be posted on MMAJunkie. In rare situations, it can be used - this is on Wikipedia Marty2Hotty (talk) 07:11, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The importance of reliable fact-checking has been emphasized to you numerous times over the past few years. It is essential to verify the credibility of the sources from which information is obtained. We utilize reputable, reliable sources, such as MMA Junkie, for fact-checking the info they get, and we use reputable, reliable sources for inline citations. If you don't understand this, I have no more further comments. Cassiopeia talk 07:50, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Roster Watch X is accepted and you said "We utilize the UFC watch [on X] to maintain the updated list." Marty2Hotty (talk) 08:04, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I previously indicated that we would replace the a reliable and independent source. However, upon further reflection, I have decided not to proceed with this substitution. This decision aims to ensure consistency and to minimize unnecessary discussions, which I have communicated before and seem not to have been understood by you. So, we dont use X.com. Cassiopeia talk 08:14, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Your edits have been reverted

Hello, Your recent edits to First 100 days of the second Donald Trump presidency have been identified as vandalism and have been reverted. Please be aware that adding disruptive or false information to pages goes against community guidelines. If you continue to make such edits, you may face further action, including being blocked from editing. If you believe your edits were constructive, feel free to discuss them on the article's talk page. Thank you. 79.168.93.9 (talk) 14:30, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

79.168.93.9 My edits have not been reverted. If you continue to vandalize the page indicating Trump declared all "American are born female" again, you will be blocked. Cassiopeia talk 16:14, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Many reputable sources have indicated that this is a fact.
just because you don’t agree with it doesn’t mean it’s vandalism
continuing to vandalize that page by claiming that these reputable sources are lying will result in you being blocked 79.168.93.9 (talk) 21:19, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This is Wikipedia, and Wikipedia set the rules and guidelines which media is reliable. I will state no more. Cassiopeia talk 23:09, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The Jewish post is a reliable source, your source was not. Please reframe from vandalising or I will block you 79.168.93.9 (talk) 23:15, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Your edit has been reverted by the admin and you have been blocked. Cassiopeia talk 23:17, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]


Ilia Topuria

https://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Ilia-Topuria-202445 it now says Spain as his origin. He is also Georgian. What do we do on List of current UFC Fighters? There is an edit war between Georgia and Spain. Can we put both? Marty2Hotty (talk) 23:18, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Incorrect application of vandalism

Just to let you know, I doting a page in good faith with a source is not vandalism

it may not be an edit you agree with or may not be what Wikipedia wants but labelling it as vandlism is disingenuous and an abuse of your powers

vandelism is typically when someone defaces the page by deleting content

i hope I’ve been able to help you learn how Wikipedia works and become a better admin in the future 148.69.58.211 (talk) 00:42, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

148.69.58.211, Go to the article talk page and discuss your edit "Trump indicates All American are born female". Btw Jerusalem Post is not in the list of reliable source in Wikipedia. Cassiopeia talk 02:20, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The user is trying to explain the definition of "vandalism" to you and is asking you to be careful of when you use that term when reverting an edit. Marty2Hotty (talk) 11:34, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I agree. Marty2Hotty (talk) 11:22, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Marty2Hotty As you see, the ip editor has been blocked for block evasion. Cassiopeia talk 00:32, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I think it is a case of mistaken idendity 148.69.58.211 (talk) 08:18, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Enroll

I had requested for the New Page Reviewer permission, but I was informed that it could be granted if I enroll in WP:NPRSCHOOL. Could you kindly guide me on how to proceed with this? Here is the request diff: 1 𝒮-𝒜𝓊𝓇𝒶 08:14, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

S-Aura Good day. Thank you for your interested in joining NPPS. Please note that the program is comprehensive and requires a lot of your time to read the guidelines and work on the assignments. Most participants took 3 months to complete the program; however, there is no timeline to complete the program. If you are still interested after reading the above, then please let me know, and I will set up the program for you. Cassiopeia talk 08:24, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I am definitely interested. Please go ahead and set up the program for me.
Thank you! 𝒮-𝒜𝓊𝓇𝒶 08:27, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
S-Aura I have set up the NPPS program for you. Please read the message located in the "communication section" at the bottom of the assignment before you begin answering the questions. Welcome to NPPS. Best regards. Cassiopeia talk

Question from RichardBellory (14:50, 27 January 2025)

Hi! I created a new account on Wikipedia. Can you please tell me if I can create new articles when the account is more than 4 days old or will I also have to edit 10 articles first? And if I am able to create articles, can I send them to you first for a quick check? --RichardBellory (talk) 14:50, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]


RichardBellory Thank you for your inquiry. A newly registered user on the English Wikipedia is required to have made a minimum of 10 edits with an account that is at least 4 days old. Both of these criteria must be satisfied prior to the creation of a new article. I highly recommend that you review and adhere to the guidelines provided at WP:Your first article before initiating the process of article creation. Cassiopeia talk 10:01, 29 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi from Opal

Hi, it's me, Opal. I'm sorry if I came off as nagging a while back when I asked you about grading my work on the NPPS page. Another semester of college just started for me, so if you'd like to wait until late May to continue the page, I'm fine with that. Good luck with everything else! - OpalYosutebito (talk) 13:49, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

OpalYosutebito Good day. I appreciate your communication regarding this matter. I will take the time to review it. Please feel free to continue at your convenience, as there is no specific deadline for completing the program. My college years were among the most fulfilling periods of my life, during which I formed many valuable and lasting friendships. I encourage you to enjoy your studies and the overall college experience. Please take care. Cassiopeia talk 22:53, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

ishowspeed

but he was actually the mayor of Lima for 1 hour 2001:4958:24EA:7C01:56E:E0E7:2180:15E6 (talk) 03:24, 29 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

2001:4958:24EA:7C01:56E:E0E7:2180:15E6. THIS was your edit. You removed sourced content and add "ok", thus it is considered a vandalism edit. Do not do it again. Cassiopeia talk 03:26, 29 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
oh okay im sorry i wont do it again 2001:4958:24EA:7C01:56E:E0E7:2180:15E6 (talk) 03:34, 29 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Just here to say that you're lovely person!

I just stumbled upon your userpage while reading some articles and was impressed by your commitment and contributions. I was a contributor to Wikipedia in the past and know that sometimes it can be hard to fight vandalism and deal with unkind people. Please keep up the good work! :)

200.163.181.96 (talk) 07:20, 29 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]


200.163.181.96. Good day. Thank you for the kind words and encouragement, as it is rare to receive such a message. Thank you for your contributions in the past, and please take care. Cassiopeia talk 08:25, 29 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Andy Yinger (02:03, 30 January 2025)

Hi.this is all overwhelming! I simply wanted to add information about my deceased father who was a coach at central mo state college in the 50s. I found the info on central mo coaches and just wanted to add him. I have researched and have citations but I started this in 2000 for his obituary but do not have sources on his win loss records. Can I submit info and some one write it since I have. Coi --Andy Yinger (talk) 02:03, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Andy Yinger Good day. I believe you edited the information above prior to your registration on Wikipedia. In order to evaluate the matter, please provide the name of the article in question. Regards. Cassiopeia talk 05:13, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hi the category is Central Missouri Mules football coaches. I want to add my deceased dad to it as he was head coach there in the 50s. I am sure I can write and use citations but the pages have charts for information, win loss records. How is that completed? And may I quote the college media guides, although I know no way an editor access them. I do not recall the sources I used to compile the win loss records, as we did not use the inhis obituary. Please advise.Andy Yinger (talk) 18:42, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Andy Yinger. I could not find the article name you mentioned above. There are 2 articles regarding "Central Missouri Mules football" - see "HERE". I need the name of the article which is stated on the top left of the page or give me the URL of the page. Secondly, please give me the source and the info which you want to add and I will add the info for you. Cassiopeia talk 02:31, 31 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Central_Missouri_Mules_football_coaches
Hi as you will see there are 34 pages in this category and I wanted to add my dad with your help.I have also been blocked due to I pad and work around through wi if. And I started article in sandbox please advise. Andy Yinger (talk) 00:49, 1 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Andy Yinger, OK, now I understand what you meant. Your father (the subject) needs to have an article in the main space of Wikipedia in order to add his name in the category. To have a article/page in Wikipedia, the subject needs to meet the WP:GNG guidelines. That means the subject needs to have significant, from independent, reliable (secondary sources) sources, whereby the sources talk about the subject in length and dept an not passing mentioned. So you father is not currently have a page in Wikipedia, so his name can not be included in the said category. Regards. Cassiopeia talk 01:00, 1 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks but there is still misunderstanding. I want to create an article to include my deceased dad who was a central Missouri state football coach. The responses from Wikipedia never stated there had to be a stand alone article for him to be listed, but the creation of one, to be placed in the said category. I note that several of the men listed as coaches in that category were at central as assistants at one time. My dad coached football at central for ten years and later became an administrator at the college. This category to date contains biographical information on these men. Thank you Andy Yinger (talk) 02:20, 1 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Andy Yinger If you put your father info in, that means you have a WP:COI (conflict of interest), which means you have to WP:DECLARE you COI on your user page and catogory page. Secondly, if you place a subject which does not have their page on the cat, then the info place will be removed. Cassiopeia talk 02:28, 1 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Mitchell edit

Sorry, didn't mean to undo your edits, I was editing at the same time as you. Nswix (talk) 22:11, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Nswix No worries. All is good. Thank you for your contribution. Cassiopeia talk 22:37, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Halterian (04:03, 31 January 2025)

Hello! I was interested in looking at the page for the Gulf of Mexico just to observe the chaos in the Talk page (I have nothing to add to that debate), and while perusing the article, a line caught my eye under the Geology section listing life forms which subsist in a particular brine pool within the gulf. I'm biologically inclined, and the inclusion of bacteria on that list but not archaea seemed off to me. I went down a little rabbit hole and ended up emailing Erik Cordes, the researcher in charge of the expedition - he suggested the term "microbes" over "bacteria," and confirmed that there are lots of archaea in the pool. I can provide proof of this correspondence if needed - the main thing is that I need help suggesting the change! I'm new to this and any help would be amazing. --Halterian (talk) 04:03, 31 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Halterian Good day. Firstly, any added or modified content must be substantiated by an independent and reliable published source, specifically a secondary source, such as those from major newspapers or books, in accordance with Wikipedia's core policy of verification. Sources derived from social media, organizational websites, educational institutions, government entities, foundations, and private companies are generally deemed unreliable and/or not independent. Given that Erik Cordes is the principal researcher overseeing the expedition, the associated source is classified as a primary source rather than an independent one. Furthermore, the emailed source does not qualify as a "published" source. I identified two entries related to "bacteria" in the Gulf of Mexico and both sources state "bacteria" - see SOURCE 1, and SOURCE 2.
Since you participate in the Wikipedia tutorial, accessible at WP:TWA. This brief program, lasting approximately 30 minutes, will familiarize you with essential Wikipedia guidelines, thereby significantly enhancing your editing skills and facilitating collaboration with other editors.
It may be beneficial for you to consider joining Wikipedia:WikiProject Biology in order to engage in discussions regarding various aspects of biology with fellow contributors to Wikipedia.
Please do not hesitate to reach out if you have any additional questions, as I am here to assist you. Welcome to Wikipedia. Cassiopeia talk 06:02, 31 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Shalom GIKUNDIRO on User:Shalom GIKUNDIRO (14:23, 31 January 2025)

Hello! I want to upload the new article but when I start editing, I see the last article I uploaded being edited and they say that: upload the changes. --Shalom GIKUNDIRO (talk) 14:23, 31 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Shalom GIKUNDIRO, Hello, Good day, and thank you for your inquiry but I am not sure what you meant. Please see below about creating an article and what info can be placed at your user page.
(1) Your user page located at - User:Shalom GIJUDRIDO . It is not intended for the storage of draft articles. User pages are designed for information pertaining to the individual or their activities related to Wikipedia, and should not serve as personal websites, blogs, social networking platforms, or Wikipedia draft articles. It is advisable to review the guidelines regarding user pages, which can be found at Wikipedia:User pages.
(2) The personal sandbox is designated for the purposes of testing and experimenting with wiki syntax, as outlined in Help:Wikitext, and the Wp:VisualEditor. It is not intended for the submission of draft articles for review or approval.

Please consult the guidelines outlined in WP:Your first article and adhere to the instructions provided for the creation of a draft article.

(3) The article must satisfy the criteria outlined in WP:GNG in order to justify its presence in the main space of Wikipedia.
(4) All articles in English Wikipedia must be composed in the English language.
(5) Wikipedia already contains articles on the topics of onions and herpes (on your user page and sandbox); therefore, it is necessary to identify a subject that meets Notability Guideline (GNG) guidelines, and there is no such article on Wikipedia before embark to write a draft page.
(6) I strongly recommend that you participate in the 30-minute program outlined in WP:TWA, as it will familiarize you with some of the fundamental guidelines of Wikipedia, which will significantly assist you in your editing endeavors.
Regards. Cassiopeia talk 22:59, 31 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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