User talk:Patar knight/Archive 16

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ISC Tapes featured music from then unknowns Chumbawama, The Mock Turtles, Blyth Power and Napalm Death. Google them. ISC Tapes had nothing to do with me, but you've just deleted a valuable resource. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.158.26.204 (talk) 11:56, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

Sorry, this slipped by my notifications. I've restored it as a contested PROD, but I've also sent it to the articles for deletion process [1] so it can be assessed on its merits. -- -- Patar knight - ^chat/_{contributions} 21:53, 27 August 2015 (UTC)

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Please note that candidate categories, such as Category:Liberal Party of Canada candidates in the 2015 Canadian federal election are only for people who have not already served as Liberal MPs, and are thus not already contained in Category:Liberal Party of Canada MPs. They are not added to incumbent Liberal MPs who are running for immediate reelection, or to past Liberal MPs who are trying to come back out of retirement — they are only for people who have never previously sat as members of the Liberal caucus in the HoC. Thanks. Bearcat (talk) 16:07, 29 August 2015 (UTC)

I personally think that completeness and ease of access should override subcategorization clutter concerns during election periods, but it seems what you said is what has always been consensus so I won't complain. Maybe we can add a note at the top of these subcategories? ---- Patar knight - ^chat/_{contributions} 19:04, 29 August 2015 (UTC)

I have nominated the article for a mention at ITN. Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates.--BabbaQ (talk) 23:39, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

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Greetings from WikiProject Military history! As a member of the project, you are invited to take part in our annual project coordinator election. If you wish to cast a vote, please do so on the election page by 23:59 (UTC) on 29 September. Yours, Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 05:21, 25 September 2015 (UTC)

I see you've been fighting a pretty persistent battle the past couple of weeks over the addition of an improperly-sourced "centre-right" to the infobox at Bloc Québécois — just wanted to let you know that I've placed an "autoconfirmed users" semi on the article for a couple of weeks to hopefully put a lid on it. Thanks, keep up the good work. Bearcat (talk) 01:14, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

Thank you and the same to you! ---- Patar knight - ^chat/_{contributions} 01:22, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

When the CBC picks up this story I will repost the link with a citation, and then your reversion will be vandalism which will be reported. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.116.14.46 (talk) 04:13, 10 October 2015 (UTC)

Per our biographies of living people policy, due to libel concerns, when contentious stories like this emerge about public figures such as Canadian MPs, we cannot host the content on Wikipedia unless the story is also reported on by multiple, third-party reliable sources. If CBC and other sources pick it up, we can revisit the issue then. Until then, it simply cannot stay on Wikipedia. ---- Patar knight - ^chat/_{contributions} 04:17, 10 October 2015 (UTC)

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Thanks for feedback, I agree with your assessment non-neutral language - I will adjust that. I have to disagree with your assessment on the need to mention who they are represented by. Take professional athletes are treated to having their representation sourced - see the profile for Kevin Durant. Those are also treated with a source. The representation for an individual is an important aspect of public knowledge should not be treated differently based on a profession (i.e. Athlete vs. Academic). So please adjust your edit accordingly. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bennyhbk (talk • contribs) 18:42, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

I think the representation in terms of athletes and public speakers is fundamentally different, especially since most of the pubic speaker articles you've edited are primarily known for something other than public speaking (e.g. Mr. Rae is a politician, Mr. Coates is a historian, Mr. Mitic is another politician, etc.). On the other hand, athletes are primarily known for their athletics, their deals in which are represented by their agents. It's comparing apples and oranges, and I think explicitly mentioning the agency in the article text would be push it over the border of what is and isn't promotional. ---- Patar knight - ^chat/_{contributions} 18:50, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

Your term "I Think" followed by a judgement call is extremely troublesome when it comes to editing. You are meant to follow a rule applied to all - not pick and choose my friend. They are not different - both generate income in one key aspect (e.g. politician, sports player) followed by a supplemental income (endorsements, player appearances, public speaking). Bennyhbk (talk) 18:53, 16 October 2015 (UTC)bennyhbk

It's a judgement call because the policy itself does not give a bright line for what is and isn't too promotional. I think it's a fair to say that explicitly mentioning the agency in articles in which the person is not primarily known for their public speaking is too promotional, though if there is consensus against that position, I am willing to revise that view. However, it's clearly not the case that the sports agent and the public speaking agent are even in the same league. The sports agent is responsible for getting their player good contracts in professional sports, and will also handle secondary sources of revenue. In short they are responsible for managing a player's entire career and almost all of their income opportunities. To claim that this is similar to a public speaking agency handling events for people who are already famous for some other field is prima facie ridiculous (unless of course the person is primarily/solely known for being a public speaker). The agency did not get the politician elected or the historian their professorships. ---- Patar knight - ^chat/_{contributions} 14:46, 17 October 2015 (UTC)

Lynton Crosby is noted as "being married to his wife Dawn". Who ele's wife would he be married to? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1.129.97.7 (talk) 21:32, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

It sounded awkward to just say "Lynton Crosby is married to Dawn", though you're entirely right that it's tautological. ---- Patar knight - ^chat/_{contributions} 14:47, 17 October 2015 (UTC)

I had to re-read it several times. So, no worries.Andwats (talk) 21:55, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

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