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Hello there, 'tis the season again, believe it or not, the years pass so quickly now! A big thank you for all of your contributions to Wikipedia in 2024! Wishing you a Very Merry Christmas and here's to a happy and productive 2025! ♦ Dr. Blofeld 09:35, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks @Dr. Blofeld. Hope all is well in your world. Been a long time around these crazy places. Star Mississippi 03:20, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello there! Vestrian24Bio (TALK) wishes you & yours the very best of the season!

Whether you celebrate Christmas, Diwali, Hanukkah, Kwanzaa,
Festivus (for the rest of us!) or even the Saturnalia,
here's hoping your holiday time is wonderful and
- especially -

that the New Year will be an improvement on the old.
CHEERS!

06:07, 18 December 2024 (UTC)

Vestrian24Bio (TALK) 06:07, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oh what cute critters! Thank you @Vestrian24Bio Star Mississippi 13:30, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merry Christmas, Star Mississippi! Or Season's Greetings or Happy Winter Solstice! As the year winds to a close, I would like to take a moment to recognize your hard work and offer heartfelt gratitude for all you do for Wikipedia. May this Holiday Season bring you nothing but joy, health and prosperity. Onel5969 TT me 22:57, 22 December 2024 (UTC) [reply]

And to you as well @Onel5969:. Thanks for all you do. Star Mississippi 15:48, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2025!

Hello Star Mississippi, may you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this seasonal occasion. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New Year 2025. Happy editing, — Benison (Beni · talk) 19:37, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply] Spread the love by adding {{subst:Seasonal Greetings}} to other user talk pages.

— Benison (Beni · talk) 19:37, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! Hope you had a great one as well Star Mississippi 03:04, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Star Mississippi: Enjoy the holiday season and winter solstice if it's occurring in your area of the world, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, Left guide (talk) 21:58, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks @Left guide I hope the same for you and yours Star Mississippi 03:05, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2025!

Hello Star Mississippi, may you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this seasonal occasion. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New Year 2025. Happy editing, Abishe (talk) 22:25, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply] Spread the love by adding {{subst:Seasonal Greetings}} to other user talk pages.

Abishe (talk) 22:25, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you @Abishe. The same to you Star Mississippi 03:05, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

	Have a happy New Year filled with light!
	Hi Star Mississippi, Best wishes that the new year brings peace, good health and happiness. Thank you for what you do for the encyclopedia and this community. It's a gift to the world! Image: New Year's Eve Foxfires at the Changing Tree, Oji, Utagawa Hiroshige, woodcut, 1857 Netherzone (talk) 15:10, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you @Netherzone. I'm so glad our digital paths crossed and am always glad for the chance to work with you. Here's to more in the coming year. Star Mississippi 00:08, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You blocked this user as not here. I agree. I will comment that there are almost certainly two reasons why they are ineligible to file an admin recall petition. They aren't auto-confirmed, let alone extended-confirmed. Second, we know that they are blocked on their original account. Why would a new user pop up with this stupid request unless they have a grudge? In conclusion, Liz was probably right in something she did at some time in the past, but that is no surprise. The block may be changed from a NOTHERE block to a CU block in the next three months if another sock provokes a CU sweep. Well, well. Robert McClenon (talk) 04:34, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks @Robert McClenon. This was definitely a choose your own adventure block situation: DE, Not here and as you said, clear socking and basically self reported. Wanted to avoid any further filings although I'm sure we'll see the editor again. Star Mississippi 03:56, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

		The Articles for Creation Barnstar 2024 Top Editor
		In 2024 you were one of the top AfC editors, thank you! --Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 14:38, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Star Mississippi,

Just saw your activity in AFDLand and wanted to wish you a happy holiday season and Happy New Year! I hope you are taking some time off during this end-of-the-year season for rest and relaxation. Tonight, I just went holiday bar hopping with the family which was a nice break from online activity. The holidays only last a week or two so enjoy them while the lights are hung up. Have a great weekend! Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 07:28, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks friend! I was thinking of you and was hoping you were navigating as best as possible given your loss earlier this year. We went to a board game bar today, which was a hoot. Doing some rare for me mobile editing but trying to stay offline while with some friends and family to enjoy the people time. Some of the lights are coming down which was sad. I’ll be back to AfD and other queues when I return home early in the new year. Star Mississippi 01:04, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Greg Flynn (businessman). Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Thriley (talk) 03:26, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you @Thriley. I’ll respond there to keep it central. Star Mississippi 01:02, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The reviewer has requested that I come here instead. Is there a way to get it recreated as a redirect to Flynn Group? It was deleted largely on the grounds that the coverage was about the Flynn Group and not Greg Flynn as a stand alone subject so it stands to reason that there is likely stuff in there which would work at the group article. Horse Eye's Back (talk) 00:28, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please raise it at the DRV @Horse Eye's Back. I have no objection to it and offered the draft, but Flynn (company, human) should likely be discussed collectively. Since the DRV already exists, it makes sense for that to be the central place vs here, Refund and anywhere else. Also, I currently don’t have the tech means to undelete and enact this as I’m editing on mobile. Courtesy @UtherSRG so they’r aware. Star Mississippi 01:13, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

As you were the nom. on the first AfD, you may be interested that the merge is now complete on this page [1] following the second AfD. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 11:01, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the merger and the headsup @Sirfurboy. Much appreciated. Star Mississippi 00:07, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Good Morning and Happy new year. Please forgive my ignorance as I am new to editing. I have recently joined a company called Verne. I have been updating our Wikipedia page as it was marked for deletion. I updated the page before Christmas and have just seen that it was deleted on the 28th. Please can you help me understand the steps I can take to have the page restored. I am keen to make the page informational about our company and the work we are doing in the space of sustainable data centres.

Many Thanks,

Al Jenkins Al Jenkins at Verne (talk) 10:40, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Al Jenkins at Verne and apologies for the delay in my response. The consensus at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Verne Global was that Verne Global does not meet the criteria we have for companies to be considered notable. What we’d need is what other sources say about Verne. These should have a certain depth to them, not just acquisitions and mission related work.

Thank you for noting your relationship to Verne, please read WP:COI for how you should note that on your page. If you believe my reading of the discussion was incorrect (not just that you disagree), you’re welcome to file a deletion review but I think that’s unlikely to succeed. Normally I’d offer this to you in Draft space so you can improve it and then submit it to WP:AfC, but I am unable to do so for tech reasons I’m dealing with that have nothing to do with your inquiry. So I’m pinging two other admins: @ScottishFinnishRadish @DoubleGrazing (any other TPS also welcome) to see if they’re willing or able to help in the mean time. DG also edits in AfC and may be able to help you there as well. I’m happy to help more fully next week when I return to full editing, but happy to try and answer any questions in the meantime. Star Mississippi 00:25, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the ping, Star Mississippi. Yes, I'm happy to restore this to drafts on the conditions that @Al Jenkins at Verne

1. makes a prompt paid-editing disclosure (I've posted instructions on their talk page);
2. agrees to put the draft through AfC review and not attempt to move it back to the main article space themselves; and
3. after re-publication (assuming?) complies with WP:COI editing rules, incl. but not only by making edit requests rather than editing the article directly.

That said, the deleted article will require a wholesale rewrite, because it is currently written entirely from the company's point of view and not based on summary of independent and reliable secondary sources as would be required by WP:NCORP. For that reason it is debatable how much use restoring it actually would be. Nevertheless, my offer stands per above. Best, -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 06:51, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks @DoubleGrazing for the excellent advice here. I'm partially back on line

@Al Jenkins at Verne please let either of us know if we can help further. Star Mississippi 00:07, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I started a draft on this fellow a while back and would be happy to have some help with it. (Also posted this on Mississippi Wikiproject talk page). I hipe all is well. FloridaArmy (talk) 23:19, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks @FloridaArmy. I'll try to get to this in the coming days and week. You know I love educators, so thanks for flagging. Star Mississippi 02:30, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Virtute et armis FloridaArmy (talk) 02:43, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Any chance you or your page watchers could help with this declined draft? Several "further reading" sources are included. Thanks! FloridaArmy (talk) 00:03, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't understand the submission denial rationale for the submitted draft and I think she belongs in mainspace. Ripe for expansion no doubt. FloridaArmy (talk) 15:42, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Looking into this and Moise who you flagged above. Apologies for delay, on wiki time has been somewhat limited. Star Mississippi 22:56, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies for the pings, FA. Wanted to restore this to work on. Star Mississippi 21:39, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Here's a former Mississippi high school with interesting history but rejected. FloridaArmy (talk) 18:34, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

thanks for flagging @FloridaArmy. I was offline for most of the holidays and @Ktkvtsh: got to this before I was able (thank you). Will see if there's anything I can add now that it's in mainspace. Star Mississippi 00:06, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you SM! You did such a nice job on Alfred Edgar Smith I am assigning you Draft:Valena C. Jones Normal School. No good deed goes unpunished! All is forgiven. I hope your year is going terrific. FloridaArmy (talk) 18:28, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I never mind homework :D and feel free to flag anything I can help with. I was reading the work of Candacy Taylor and Smith was mentioned. I was glad to see it was your draft since I knew you wouldn't mind my crashing it.

GOing to batch this with the others so neither they nor this archive like the first batch did. New Year is off to a healthy but suprisingly cold start. I hope you're also well. Star Mississippi 02:10, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I think the Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pickled Egg Records deletion decision may have been a mistake. You said 'consensus is clear that the label does not meet the guidelines'. However, several editors said there was notable references for the article, yes several others said delete. However, there was no clear consensus to delete. ~~~~

Jonpatterns (talk) 09:24, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! I have re-read the discussion and my reading remains clear that the arguments of notability were not backed by sourcing. None of us is perfect however so if you believe it’s the wrong read, you’re welcome to file a deletion review Star Mississippi 15:23, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

story · music · places

Happy new year 2025, opened with trumpet fanfares that first sounded OTD in 1725 (as the Main page had). My story today is about a composer who influenced music history also by writing. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:18, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oh wow, that's fascinating musical history. Thanks, as always, for sharing your insight and for including me this month @Gerda Arendt Star Mississippi 14:27, 9 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! - Today a violinist from Turkey, Ayla Erduran, whom you can watch playing Schubert chamber music --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:07, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

... and today, pictured on the Main page, Tosca, in memory of her first appearance on stage OTD in 1900, and of principal author Brian Boulton. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:03, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Today, between many who just died, Tobias Kratzer on his 45th birthday who was good for an unusual DYK mentioning a Verdi opera in 2018, - you can see his work in the trailer of another one that I saw, and my talk page has a third (but by a different director). 2025 pics, finally. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:50, 17 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Today I had a composer (trumpeter, conductor) on the main page who worked closely with another who just became GA, - small world! To celebrate: mostly flowers pics from vacation ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:55, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, friend. Music has such power of healing, which the world very much needs right now. Be well Star Mississippi 19:35, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, - yes! - Today is Schubert's birthday. I added a pic of music-making to his article (and my story) and raised a question on the talk, regarding the lead image. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:35, 31 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

During the unban request, Drbogdan linked his livejournal account. If you follow that through, it's clear he's using wikipedia as a webhost still by calling a historical version of the page "my profile". I don't know if this is a case for deleting a userpage history for abuse? Or if he's found a bit of a loophole to WP:NOTWEBHOST in this case. Or if nobody particularly cares, I suppose. Warrenᚋᚐᚊᚔ 17:50, 11 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Warrenmck. My reading is that is more likely applied to editors without a history. Whether Dr. B's can be considered productive or not, he has as history. I may be wrong on that and you're welcome to flag it for broader look. Thanks for flagging in either case. Star Mississippi 18:18, 11 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You closed this AFD as a redirect - except he is not mentioned on the new target page and likely never will be, given his minor association with the club... GiantSnowman 12:43, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'd be fine with it being deleted at RfD, or him being mentioned.

Do you think I closed it incorrectly? Happy to relist to save bureaucracy Star Mississippi 14:04, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Petsy916 moved your user page to theirs. I'm not entirely certain how to undo that move without accidentally breaking things, so I'll leave it to you. If you actually control that account (I'm all but certain you don't), feel free to lift the block on that account. --Yamla (talk) 12:50, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks @Yamla and @Cryptic for the block and clean up. Not sure how I made that new friend. Star Mississippi 14:01, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

What I wanted was for the template to be changed to a softer tone of voice.

As it is: "Please stop." (Full sentence)

Proposed edit: "Please stop ..." (Expand sentence beyond the word stop.)

I would've done this but the template is protected so that only admins can edit it. style="color #964b00 Cyber the tiger🐯 (talk) 22:15, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the clarification @CyberTheTiger. Unfortunately this is not an edit I can implement due to tech limitations in my current set up. Star Mississippi 18:39, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

aren't you an admin of Wikipedia? style="color #964b00 Cyber the tiger🐯 (talk) 23:01, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I am, but I have been editing primarily on mobile, which has its limitations. Please get consensus for your requested change and if no admin is watching, file an edit request. As I read the discussion, there is not yet broad support for your change. Star Mississippi 01:50, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks again @CaptainEek for this fix, and @Daniel for one forever ago on DRV. Do you two or any other TPS know how to properly do single quotation marks on an iPad? I’ve tried to use it to complement my otherwise typical non availability when away from my desktop, but I seem more limited than I expected (no scripts, etc.) Thanks! Star Mississippi 18:39, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Funnily enough that correction was mostly accidental. At first I thought it was my oppose vote and I'm like oh that's weird why did the formatting do that, so I corrected it. Then I saw it was your oppose vote, and was like well...they'll probably appreciate it :) Can't say I use apple devices so not sure how to fix that... CaptainEek ^{Edits Ho Cap'n!}⚓ 18:43, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Very much appreciated, but hate when editors have to clean up after me. Thank you! And yes, we seem to be in the minority. I was going to ask @Cullen328 for their help, but they use (or reference, in their essay) a device I’m not familiar with Star Mississippi 19:09, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I use Android phones and Windows computers. Sorry, I am not an Apple guy except when it comes to pie and the Beatles. Cullen328 (talk) 19:41, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Go to Settings on the iPad, then tap General. Now tap Keyboard and slip the slider to off on Smart Punctuation. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 19:58, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you so much @Sirfurboy. Or perhaps thank you since I can drop dropping reverse quotation marks all over the place. Much appreciated.

@Cullen328 I'm an Apple person, but new to iPad world. My desktop doesn't do that, or I turned it off years ago and forgot how. Star Mississippi 21:10, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page watcher) Don't know about the iPad, but on iPhone I'd press and hold the (slanted) single quote in the 123 menu to get other options including the straight one. Same method works to get n-dash instead of hyphen, accented versions of vowels and so on. Regards, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 09:41, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! I knew that for accented letters, but not for punctuation.

I've turned them off for now but will mind that if I need it for other things on the iPad I'm not yet aware of. Star Mississippi 13:17, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Star Mississippi -- Could I ask you to take another look at this? I believe the editor is good faith, and they would not be the first to be wound up by overenthusiastic interpretations of the medical project's guideline on reliable sources. One of the sources that is being questioned is a book from Springer, another a journal from Wiley -- while they might not be ideal medical sources for the uses in question, we are not talking someone adding medical content sourced from blogs, popular newspapers or even research papers. The copyright issue seems to be from 2022 and I think they do now understand that they are not allowed to copy material to Wikipedia, even if it is widely copied around the net. At heart this seems to be a content dispute pursued on one side by (over-)stringent interpretations of MEDRS, and on the other by exasperation resulting in incivility. Cheers, Espresso Addict (talk) 17:52, 29 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your note @Espresso Addict. I'm going to respond there to keep it central, but appreciate the flag as I somehow missed their last post despite the ping and my using them. Silly gremlins! Star Mississippi 02:29, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Let me know if you'd prefer me to shift this to a proper SPI. For now, I've put it in the present discussion. Thanks. Zenomonoz (talk) 10:01, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Zenomonoz that's a question to be definitively answered by an SPI clerk. I think it's better for record keeping,but it will be a behavioral analysis as the prior accounts you identified (thank you) will be too stale for CU. Star Mississippi 14:21, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Is there somebody/somewhere I should ask, or just leave it on ANI until that happens? Zenomonoz (talk) 14:24, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I think your question/sub-section there is fine as is. Merging it now will probably need a tool any way. @Espresso Addict any particular thoughts? I'm not super active in SPI Star Mississippi 14:29, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I don't work in SPI at all, sorry. Espresso Addict (talk) 14:55, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks @Espresso Addict. @Zenomonoz it looks like Spicy weighed in with all needed information as far as an API and you and Moribundum have been in touch with ArbComm so probably as resolved as it's getting for now. Star Mississippi 16:57, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I didn’t contact ArbComm btw (am I supposed to?) Zenomonoz (talk) 18:36, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies @Zenomonoz, I thought you had shared your findings. I'd recommend you emailing a permalink to that sub thread to them. You don't have to. Star Mississippi 20:18, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Will do. Zenomonoz (talk) 20:51, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

who should I email? Zenomonoz (talk) 22:34, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, missed your prior. User:Arbitration Committee has the means of reaching out depending on whether you have email enabled. Star Mississippi 22:46, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Please could you refund P. Shanmugam (CPIM) as Draft:P. Shanmugam (CPIM) so that it retains its edit history.-- Toddy1 (talk) 09:45, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Toddy1. This is done. Noting here as I will at their talk, I have p-blocked the primary editor from editing the article. Another admin is welcome to consider but it is my opinion that nothing good will come from this. Star Mississippi 14:16, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, Consider deleting P. Shanmugam (CPIM) under WP:R2, and we have to ensure it doesn’t get moved to the main space without going through AfC. GrabUp - Talk 14:32, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the reminder. Now R2ed.

I think the p-block will prevent that @GrabUp but open to other suggestions. I want to leave it accessible if @Toddy1 or other editors are interested in working on it. Star Mississippi 14:39, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I am interested in doing a bit - but I am busy right now. Soman said that he/she would look at in a few weeks and do a bit - see User talk:Soman#Draft:P. Shanmugam (CPIM). Regarding AfC, I do not have a lot of faith in it - I once submitted an article for review - the reviewer took 3 minutes on mine and 3 minutes on the one he/she did before mine - doing it properly takes a lot longer than that. Luckily for the one before mine, someone else moved it from draft to mainspace and it is still there now.-- Toddy1 (talk) 14:58, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

My on wiki time is never super consistent @Toddy1 but happy to help on AfC if I'm online when you need it. You or @Soman are welcome to ping me on this as well as I'm not watching the draft. Star Mississippi 16:49, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with you - not only is it bad for blood pressure (so my doctor tells me), it also makes identifying repeated recreations more difficult. I would rather a sock recreated their latest attempt at recreating their vanity page at a title that had been deleted a dozen times, it makes it so much easier to notice. Between middle names, prfessional titles, disambiguators in parenthesis and whatever else, there's no way that salting can actually stop someone from recreating their spammy page - better to keep it all in one place in my opinion. Girth Summit _(blether) 18:35, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yep. Much easier to track.

I know there are some instances where a title blacklist may help, but I'm not familiar enough with that to know if & when it would be a good outcome. Thanks for your assist on that AfD @Girth Summitas it helped put it to bed. Star Mississippi 21:03, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]