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Cold War LegaciesHello, the article Cold War Legacies which you added contains only a small amount of information that appears to be a draft. In order to remain on the article space, the article must contain sufficient information to show that it meets the notability criteria. If you would like to work on a draft for later posting as an article, I can move the article to your userspace (which is not private) where you can work on it until you are satisfied that it can be posted to the article space. Note that doing this is not a guarantee that the article merits inclusion criteria, but it will save you a lot of headache and heartache. In its current state, the article may be deleted rather quickly; in fact, I'm surprised it hasn't already been deleted. Let me know if you would like me to move the draft by responding below and I'll gladly do it for you. —KuyaBriBriTalk 17:46, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
I appreciate you and others taking the time to respond. However, there are still a number of my questions that remain unanswered. I did try posting earlier on the Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Cold War, but I received no responses at all. I notice that you and another respondent mention what might appear to be a lack of inline references. As I’ve indicated, there are many cited, and I think the reason for the disparity is that the six main articles I wrote have not all been posted. While the summaries and lead-ins, which you might have read, have only a few citations, there are many in the six main articles. That brings me the main problem that no one seems to be able to help so far. I followed somebody’s advice and deleted the / preceding the names of the six articles, but to date only two are published. Where are the others? Someone, PLEASE help with that problem. We can deal with the other issues later. I do have copies of my original postings, but I did make some changes to the wikipedia versions afterwards of which I do not have a record. There should be six self-standing articles, replete with citations: Cold War Radiation Legacies, Cold War Nuclear Legacies, Cold War Military Legacies, Cold War Security Legacies, Cold War Institutional Legacies, and Cold War Economic Legacies. Each of these is reached through the umbrella title and summary Cold War Legacies, which was intended to be linked to Legacies section of the main article Cold War. After this matter is sorted out, I am willing to respond the other questions you raised. waterfox1 (talk) 00:04, 19 March 2010 (UTC) Speedy deletion nomination of Cold War LegaciesThank you for experimenting with Wikipedia. Your test worked, and the page that you created has been or soon will be deleted. Please use the sandbox for any other tests you want to do. Take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia. You may also wish to consider using a Wizard to help you create articles - see the Article Wizard. If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding Help request, re. Cold War Legacy{{Help Me}} Having completed text to be added to the Legacy subsection of Cold War, I am requesting step-by-step assistance or fulfillment in carrying through that transition. I have no experience in exporting an article and importing it into an existing page, and I don't want to take the risk of creating problems with the main article. The Cold War Legacies article is currently in my sandbox User:Waterfox1 and is ready to be imported into the main article, at which time it can undergo peer review and editing. In the meantime, I will be working on importing some images, subject to their validation. waterfox1 19:11, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
==Cold War Radiation== {{main|Cold War Radiation Legacies}} Following the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki during [[World War II]], ...etc. (further summary here) ...each section would then look something like this; Cold War RadiationFollowing the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki during World War II, ...etc. (further summary here) ...and so on, for each sub-topic.
Some clarification of this whole concept may be gleaned from WP:SUMMARYSTYLE. I hope that this is sufficient explanation to get things started; if you do require further assistance, please use a {{helpme}} here, on your own talk page. You may also wish to contact me directly on my talk page, or obtain live assistance. Best wishes, Chzz ► 19:44, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
{{Help Me}} I'm ready to post (move) my article "Cold War Legacies." I have the following question: What do I do about the 6 subpages? Right now they are posted with a slash designation (i.e., /Cold War Radiation Legacies). Do I remove the / in front of each subpage before moving the main article Cold War Legacies, or are some other steps required so the entire article is moved as one coherent block? Second question: Once the Cold War Legacies article with its 6 subsections is moved to the mainspace, I want to place a link in the Legacy section of the main article Cold War. My provisional intent is to edit that Legacy section and add the following sentence: "A more specific description of Cold War radiation, nuclear, military, security, institutional, and economic legacies can be found in the following article: ." Is this an accepted way to start out the merge? Any experienced guidance would be appreciated waterfox1 19:17, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
== Legacy {{main|Cold War Legacies}} ...summary paragraphs here, summarizing the content of the 'cold war legacies' article'
waterfox1 16:53, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
{{Help Me}} It seems like my request for help has fallen in the cracks. I'm worried that what I had in mind is getting all bolexed up. I had intended to add six subarticles to the Legacy section of Cold War; however, in following previous suggestions it seems to have gone awry. In fact, I don't even see what I added to the Legacy section as links to be there any longer. Basically, I have written 6 long articles as mentioned above, following prior discussions I have attempted to move and link them with the following heirarchy intended: Cold War
The article Cold War Legacies is OK, except that its "Further information" links are missing. Each topic has a brief summary, but the Further information in red is supposed to link to the original articles that were in my sandbox and previously preceded by a slash, which I removed as advised. Someone please help a neophyte out, especially before several months of writing and editing disappears. Right now, I have no idea where the six big articles are, and nothing seems to linked as planned. The topic Cold War Legacies was intended to be directly accessed from Legacy and not as a "see-also" article placed at the end of Cold War. I hope someone can sort this out as it is not being posted like it was intended. waterfox1 (talk) 00:20, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
{{Help Me}} The problem is not resolved. If you look further and follow the links, you will see that only the summaries for each topic are there, but the main articles (for further information) are highlighted in red, (such as Cold War Military Legacies); they do not link to what were the original long main articles for each of the six topics. waterfox1 (talk) 17:26, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
Well, now I see that the first two of the six articles have appeared and are being edited by the community. Maybe in my fledgling state, I am unaware of how the process works, and should be patient for the other articles to appear? I'd be relieved if someone would clue me in. waterfox1 (talk) 20:48, 17 March 2010 (UTC) How references workSimple referencesThese require two parts;
Chzz is 98 years old.<ref> "The book of Chzz", Aardvark Books, 2009. </ref> He likes tea. <ref> [http://www.nicecupofteaandasitdown.com Tea website] </ref>
== References == {{reflist}} (an existing article is likely to already have one of these sections) To see the result of that, please look at user:chzz/demo/simpleref. Edit it, and check the code; perhaps make a test page of your own, such as user:Waterfox1/reftest and try it out. Named referencesChzz was born in 1837, <ref name="MyBook"> "The book of Chzz", Aardvark Books, 2009. </ref> in Footown.<ref name="MyBook"/> Note that the second usage has a / (and no closing ref tag). This needs a reference section as above; please see user:chzz/demo/namedref to see the result. Citation templatesYou can put anything you like between <ref> and </ref>, but using citation templates makes for a neat, consistent look; Chzz has 37 Olympic medals. <ref> {{Citation | last = Smith | first = John | title = Olympic medal winners of the 20th century | publication-date = 2001 | publisher = [[Cambridge University Press]] | page = 125 | isbn = 0-521-37169-4 }} </ref> Please see user:chzz/demo/citeref to see the result. For more help and tips on that subject, see user:chzz/help/refs. Your signatureHello, it appears you are using a custom signature. To assist others, it is generally preferred that your signature include a link to your user or talk page (the default signature uses both). Currently there is no link. Could you please correct this to assist other users that may need to get in contact with you? Thanks. --Shirik (Questions or Comments?) 19:51, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
Helping you outThe problem with asking for help on wikipedia, is that almost no one will help you. They will maybe see something they're interested in, and do something, but it doesn't happen right away. You have been given help on how to do things, but haven't done them. I've found that WP is more of a "teach you how to fish" kind of place, than a "catch the fish for you" kind of place. Part of what you've done is everything. Most of what you've written needs to be wikified. With Cold War Nuclear Legacies, for example, it doesn't just need wikifying, it needs copious references. I think you have 8, and for an article of that size, I'd expect 50 or more. How did you come up with all of this information? Where did it come from? Need references to show where it came from. It's like math: "show your work." Another thing I notice is your reliance on the "help me" thing. Looking through the comments on this page I see that people have been willing to help. What you're not doing is responding to them on their talk page. If you look at my talk page, you'll notice that I respond to people on their talk pages after they respond on mine. Sometimes the whole conversation is on one person's talk page, sometimes not. In your case, I'd say you would get a lot better conversation if you respond on their talk pages asking for help. They probably aren't responding to you on your talk page because they aren't "watching" it. They may respond to you on your talk page, or they may respond on theirs. Because you're the newbie here, I'd say you should keep up with their pages, rather than expecting them to keep up with yours. (you may have had that expectation without even realizing it, btw) As for why your articles got deleted right away? That's a problem that WP has. I'll move them over to the main space from your userspace, and they should stay there, but we'll need to tag them appropriately as needing work, but suitable for staying in...Hires an editor (talk) 01:43, 19 March 2010 (UTC) Cold War Legacies, Part II
I'm glad to see that somebody experienced in WP and in CW history has seized the initiative, and I'll happily leave the ball in your court (to mix up metaphors). I assume you'll take into consideration my original strategy, but adopt whatever you consider to be a coherent approach that will eliminate the specific duplication I mentioned. As for the CIA and FSB transitions, I frankly didn't and don't give much weight to their new roles. I agree about the articles' shortfall in FSU satellite conditions, and don't doubt that there's some redundancy and value in reorganization. Being self-referential is part of a scientific tradition to begin at some previously published point, with all of its own internal backup and references, and then go from there. Of course, it's not particularly appropriate for an encyclopedia. Please ping me if I can be of any specific help, such as digging out some specific references. Meanwhile, I'll attempt to insert some images and occasionally monitor progress. 72.197.143.144 (talk) 16:55, 20 March 2010 (UTC) Copyright problem: Cold War nuclear legaciesHello, and welcome to Wikipedia! We welcome and appreciate your contributions, such as Cold War nuclear legacies, but we regretfully cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from either web sites or printed material. This article appears to be a copy from http://openlibrary.org/books/OL16273988M/Nuclear_shadowboxing Nuclear Shadowboxing" Volume 2: Legacies and Challenges, and therefore a copyright violation. The copyrighted text has been or will soon be deleted. While we appreciate contributions, we must require all contributors to understand and comply with our copyright policy. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously, and persistent violators are liable to be blocked from editing. If you believe that the article is not a copyright violation, or if you have permission from the copyright holder to release the content freely under license allowed by Wikipedia, then you should do one of the following:
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Copyright Issues for Cold War LegaciesI happened by Wikipedia today, and tried to check on the status of my contribution, Cold War Legacies, but frankly I have obsoleted myself, and need to ask for your help, if any is needed. Because of an unrelated book I'm writing at the moment, I just don't have time to attend to this; in fact, I have no idea where the matter stands and I find the related Talk pages overwhelming. As I mentioned before, I am the copyright holder for both Nuclear Shadowboxing and Nuclear Insights; so please help by taking care of the issues. Because I don't have any time to track the talk pages, any inquiries will have to be sent to me directly at waterfoxg@gmail.com Sorry, but that's the best I can do. The Wikipedia relearning curve is too steep and time-consuming, and I admire those of you who have the time to persist. In fact, I'm a inveterate Wikipedia user/absorber for the unrelated book that I mentioned. --Alex ____ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Waterfox1 (talk • contribs) 01:25, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
To: permissions-en@wikimedia.org cc: Moonriddengirl (via Talk page) In connection with articles I have published on wikipedia under Cold War Legacy, I hereby affirm that I am the creator and/or sole owner of the exclusive copyright of Nuclear Shadowboxing: Contemporary Threats from Cold War Weaponry, published by Fidlar Doubleday (Volume 1: 2004 ISBN ; Volume 2: 2005 ISBN ) I agree to publish that work under the free license "Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0" (unported) and GNU Free Documentation License (unversioned, with no invariant sections, front-cover texts, or back-cover texts). I acknowledge that by doing so I grant anyone the right to use the work in a commercial product or otherwise, and to modify it according to their needs, provided that they abide by the terms of the license and any other applicable laws. I am aware that I always retain copyright of my work, and retain the right to be attributed in accordance with the license chosen. Modifications others make to the work will not be attributed to me. I acknowledge that I cannot withdraw this agreement, and that the content may or may not be kept permanently on a Wikimedia project. --Alexander DeVolpi, lead author, copyright-holder, and appointed representative of copyright co-holders. 11 December 2010 waterfoxg@gmail.com waterfox1 (talk) 01:14, 12 December 2010 (UTC) |