Ĉi tio estas diskutpaĝo celante speciale la neparolantojn de la franca lingvo por diskuti pri ĉio ajn rilate al la franclingva Vikipedio. Vi povas ankaŭ peti helpon ĉi tie. Mesaĝoj povas esti aldonitaj en kiu ajn lingvo inkluzive la francan, kvankam relative malgranda parto de la kontribuantoj en la franclingva Vikipedio flue regas aliajn lingvojn krom la francan kaj la anglan.
La nombro da artikoloj en la franclingva vikipedio estas nun 2 662 026.
Mallonge:
Vi povas demandi ion ajn pri franclingvaj versioj de Wikimedia projektoj;
Vi povas demandi ion ajn pri francaj lingvo kaj kulturo (aŭ pri la kulturo de la franclingvaj landoj)
Vi povas demandi ion ajn pri la softvaro Mediawiki;
Vi estas ege bonvena doni vian opinion kaj sugestojn pri la franclingva vikipedio;
Vi povas fari demandojn en iu ajn lingvo, sed demandoj en la angla havos ŝancojn esti pli akurate responditaj.
I wrote an article for pay on the English Wikipedia. It was submitted in "Draft" form via their "Articles for Creation" process, with COI declared, and published by an independent editor.
Hello @Pigsonthewing and thanks for reaching out. First of all, you need to state in your userpage who your client is and that you have been paid to write an article for them. Can you also provide a link to the article on the English Wiki? It is a good practice that your client used professional translator. However, the article must meet the treshold of notability (and criteria are usually more restrictive here on the French wiki than on EN). Then, the style also needs to be encyclopedic and not hagiographic or promotional (especially when dealing with a living person, a company or any entity). So I think it would be good practice to publish this translation in your draft page (Utilisateur:Pigsonthewing/Brouillon). Skimel (discuter) 2 octobre 2024 à 01:16 (CEST)[répondre]
Pigsonthewing, the difference with en.wp is that no one will publish your draft on your behalf. Some users might give you advice (here) about your work¹, but none of that advice will be a formal approval of the work or a publication. You are free to publish the article anytime.
If the quality of the translation (or the tone) is not up to what NPOV asks for, reviewers will tell you. But again it will be up to fix it, and then up to you again you to decide on when to publish the article in the main space. Post-publication, the article will have its own life.
Side note: I question myself on the copyright around the translation work. How will it be credited?
¹ Please note that many reviewers will not accept to have a conversation in English about an article written in French. The goal of the review is to have a conversation on how to improve the article. Please consider this as you don't speak French. And before you ask: I don't review articles created by paid-editors.
I added the standard template for a draft at the top of your sandbow. It gives you the option to ask for a proofreading (Demander une relecture) or to publish the article (Publier mon brouillon). My engagement stop there, good luck! Trizekbla14 octobre 2024 à 20:56 (CEST)[répondre]
On wp.fr, a topic requires at least two nationally known independent secondary sources with at least two years between publication (see Wikipédia:Notoriété des personnes, and WP:NSU).
I'm not going to check in detail whether James Hirsh's article qualifies here, but after a short search on Google, it doesn't.
If the only sources are like his biography on the GSU site, that's certainly not enough (it's not an independent source since he works there).
He could have written dozens of books, if no independent secondary source has bothered to talk about him, wp.fr shouldn't either.
Anyway, in its current state, her draft is not ready to be published here, partly because of its layout. See Aide:Comment rédiger un bon article to learn how to write a good article.
I would focus on WP:NSU first, which has specific criteria more interesting than the "independent secondary sources with at least two years between publication" given above.
An interesting way to check to the notoriety would be to work on the the prices and distinctions this professor received. If they are the top ones on his domain of expertise, it would fulfill the requirements.
I would like to edit Shamate to include File:Smart_kids-011.jpg. If possible, add it in with the caption "Example of Shamate fashion" translated to French.
@Trizek: Well, I do know how to edit and add the picture, but I do not speak French, so I wanted an actual French person to do the translation, because I frankly do not trust Google Translate or other machine translation. Thanks for your help! QuickQuokka (discuter) 26 janvier 2025 à 07:12 (CET)[répondre]
Incidental exposure of woman’s nipples in article where it is not relevant
Woman holding a sea urchin in her hand and looking down at it, while topless. This image also incidentally includes her nipples.
This image is included in the article Arbacia lixula, captioned as:
Cet oursin n'est pas dangereux, et peut être manipulé sans risque avec quelques précautions.
Thus her nipples are not relevant, but showing her whole body for context might be useful.
Some users object to even incidental inclusion of such body parts. Wikimedia projects are not censored, by policy, but should not use that as an excuse to include gratuitious nudity. So do you think it would be useful to have a modified version of this image, with the nipples obscured, or does pandering to such concerns send the wrong message? Brianjd (discuter) 28 janvier 2025 à 06:05 (CET)[répondre]
Hello Brianjd. I see that you've already received answers on the Swedish Wikipedia.
I agree with what @Lazulis said regarding offensive contents, and we wouldn't censor nudity. I would strongly oppose anyone wanting to remove images of nudity where it is relevant.
However, we also have guidelines regarding the usage of images. And in this specific case, the article is about the sea urchin. Consequently, the image could focus on the urchin. As a consequence, I don't think anyone would oppose a change of the initial image by this cropped image.
‘Nipple crusade’? That’s absurd. If I was on such a crusade, I could start plenty of arguments on projects in my own language.
I’m not on such a crusade. I confine my comments to this specific case, of real-life (not artistic) nipples in an article where they are not relevant. Brianjd (discuter) 28 janvier 2025 à 15:51 (CET)[répondre]
(Sorry for writing in English. Of course you may answer me in French, but please ping me then)
I wanted to know who @Brianjd is, when he asks like this on both languages. Sorry Brian, but I am totaly against the moralism, and I wrote that on svwp too, therefor I wanted to learn more about you. (I also copy and paste this to svwp).
We all asume he is a moralist, but by looking at his edits on Commons you see he is a very active user. He writes very neutral, see here, about a whale tail picture. Also, here, asking about cathegories where he explicite says a topless sun bathing woman is not erotic. There are of course more examples, but that is not needed.
What I understand after this analysis is that Brian is not on a "nipple crusade" or moralism crusade, but actually was curious how the only two language versions think about this picture, and why. It is a little bit interesting that it just happens to be French and Swedish versions (both known for their openness about the body). I don't know how the picture was added to the french article, but the Swedish was added by the Lsjbot. So it seems to be a genuine question out of pure curiosity, and I respect that and apologizes to Brianjd for my "low aggressive" answer in the beginning on svwp. Adville (discuter) 30 janvier 2025 à 00:11 (CET)[répondre]
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