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As to not drag out AE any longer

Responding to this, I don't disagree, and I'm sure there is other sourcing that presents the information differently. With what was presented and taking a quick look the report wasn't flagrantly incorrect. My point is that AE isn't the venue to look at 40 such diffs, compile or have other editors compile sources for an analysis, and compare the language used, sources available, and how that changes depending on the subject of the article. That's what the evidence and workshop phases of an Arbcom case are for. The fact that you wanted to (and should!) present counter-evidence and analysis shows that the limitations of AE can't handle that. It would be one thing if there were a few examples given, as is often the case, and the subject of the report can reply, but as I'm you're well aware if we start setting up diff analysis tables and wording examinations we'll have a hundred thousand words there in a week. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 19:55, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

AE not being the venue does not mean it should be referred to ArbCom. It means you should decline to take action. If a user wants to go to ArbCom with that complaint that is their prerogative, you referring a case however is the admins saying ArbCom should deal with this, not that AE should not. nableezy - 20:04, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
They should deal with it as there is a case on its way. There were also (and have been in the past) accusations that the report and behavior is tendentious. That is something Arbcom should be looking at in the coming case. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 21:40, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@ScottishFinnishRadish, got it, thanks.VR (Please ping on reply) 20:09, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Cite missing from Baalbek

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Nevermind I was able to confirm that this was Daher 2019 Hezbollah: Mobilization and Power and fix the reference. -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested «@» °∆t° 01:49, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@ActivelyDisinterested, sorry just saw this. Yes that's correct. I had copied and pasted references from other articles without copying and pasting the main sfn ref.VR (Please ping on reply) 17:18, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello. In June, you changed the infobox here to be materially different than those of the other bombardments mentioned the first paragraph of this article: Hamburg, Dresden, London. Your edit comment refers to Talk, but there was no discussion of this issue there. Would be appreciative if you could fill me in on the rationale for this very obvious inconsistency. Thx.

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Infobox Template on Israeli Bombing of Gaza

Hi VR. Just dropping in to see if I could get your opinion on a new topic on raised on the Israeli bombardment article. It's very connected to the discussion we were having on Dresden, Hamburg, London, etc. Here, I'm pointing out the incongruity of the infobox template. Thx! Johnadams11 (talk) 16:34, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Your userpage

Hello VR! What happened to your userpage? I liked how it looks and it sucks to see it go Abo Yemen 16:46, 17 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Abo Yemen really? I can bring it back...VR (Please ping on reply) 00:29, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah it did. Just change the colors to match your signature's colors 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 06:53, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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